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		<title>By: Jeff Necessary</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Necessary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In its day War Memorial Stadium was a wonderful place for college football. That day is past. And unless Gary Smith can find about $100 million buried under a tree on the War Memorial Park golf course, that day will never return. It&#039;s just not an SEC-caliber facility, and no matter how much lipstick the stadium commission puts on that pig, it&#039;s still a pig. My seats are right next to the visitors&#039; section, so I hear the visiting fans&#039; comments. They are, shall we say, not impressed. It does not reflect well on our state. Is it really the best thing for Arkansas to force the state&#039;s team to play in a substandard facility year after year?

If people are really serious about maintaining WMS&#039; role in Razorback football long term -- and that&#039;s what we&#039;re talking about here -- something is going to have to happen, and that something is going to involve many millions of dollars. I just don&#039;t see that anyone is going to step up to the plate and come up with the cash to do what needs to be done -- the legislature, the city, or private interests. Gary Smith has the right idea, but he doesn&#039;t have the funds to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In its day War Memorial Stadium was a wonderful place for college football. That day is past. And unless Gary Smith can find about $100 million buried under a tree on the War Memorial Park golf course, that day will never return. It&#8217;s just not an SEC-caliber facility, and no matter how much lipstick the stadium commission puts on that pig, it&#8217;s still a pig. My seats are right next to the visitors&#8217; section, so I hear the visiting fans&#8217; comments. They are, shall we say, not impressed. It does not reflect well on our state. Is it really the best thing for Arkansas to force the state&#8217;s team to play in a substandard facility year after year?</p>
<p>If people are really serious about maintaining WMS&#8217; role in Razorback football long term &#8212; and that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re talking about here &#8212; something is going to have to happen, and that something is going to involve many millions of dollars. I just don&#8217;t see that anyone is going to step up to the plate and come up with the cash to do what needs to be done &#8212; the legislature, the city, or private interests. Gary Smith has the right idea, but he doesn&#8217;t have the funds to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Glover</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Glover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex - I just found your blog tonight - great stuff.  As someone who grew up in the deep South of Arkansas but has lived in the Northwest corner for 15 years, I think your comments about the differences are right on.  It is different here.  Not bad, but different.  

It&#039;s a small thing, I know, but this sums it up for me: When I go back South, people in passing cars wave, and I wave back.  My kids ask &quot;Dad, do you know that person?&quot; &quot;No,&quot; I say, &quot;that&#039;s just what people do down here.&quot;

No doubt there are lots of fans here, but they don&#039;t seem to me to have the same passion for the Razorbacks as the folks back home.  I hope the Hogs continue to play in LR forever.

Apologies to any of my neighbors that I have offended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex &#8211; I just found your blog tonight &#8211; great stuff.  As someone who grew up in the deep South of Arkansas but has lived in the Northwest corner for 15 years, I think your comments about the differences are right on.  It is different here.  Not bad, but different.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a small thing, I know, but this sums it up for me: When I go back South, people in passing cars wave, and I wave back.  My kids ask &#8220;Dad, do you know that person?&#8221; &#8220;No,&#8221; I say, &#8220;that&#8217;s just what people do down here.&#8221;</p>
<p>No doubt there are lots of fans here, but they don&#8217;t seem to me to have the same passion for the Razorbacks as the folks back home.  I hope the Hogs continue to play in LR forever.</p>
<p>Apologies to any of my neighbors that I have offended.</p>
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		<title>By: rexnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>rexnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cairo, Ill., is also the South. At the downtown barbecue there, they say: &quot;Y&#039;all come back.&quot;

It&#039;s really more of an east-west distinction in this part of the country than a north-south distinction. Generally, the further east you go (even the Missouri Bootheel and Southern Illinois), the more Southern it gets as opposed to far western Arkansas and western Missouri.

I would contend that these days, Cairo is more Southern than Rogers -- Rex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cairo, Ill., is also the South. At the downtown barbecue there, they say: &#8220;Y&#8217;all come back.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really more of an east-west distinction in this part of the country than a north-south distinction. Generally, the further east you go (even the Missouri Bootheel and Southern Illinois), the more Southern it gets as opposed to far western Arkansas and western Missouri.</p>
<p>I would contend that these days, Cairo is more Southern than Rogers &#8212; Rex</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Dalby</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Dalby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War Memorial games make the Razorbacks more accessible to the rest of the state, and that&#039;s good for recruiting purposes.  I don&#039;t want to refight the Civil War, but the South goes all the way up to Southern Missouri (I know..their cornbread is cooked in a square, metal pan with a little sugar, but at least they eat it instead of bagels).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War Memorial games make the Razorbacks more accessible to the rest of the state, and that&#8217;s good for recruiting purposes.  I don&#8217;t want to refight the Civil War, but the South goes all the way up to Southern Missouri (I know..their cornbread is cooked in a square, metal pan with a little sugar, but at least they eat it instead of bagels).</p>
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		<title>By: tmfw</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>tmfw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, by this reasoning Nashville is not in the South b/c it is closer to Missouri than it is to Memphis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, by this reasoning Nashville is not in the South b/c it is closer to Missouri than it is to Memphis?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Edmark</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Edmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Stadiums, football and regional culture, all in one blog post. Rex could have been less controversial if he had merely explained how to handle health care or what should have happened in Cambridge, Mass., a couple of weeks ago.

I live in Fayetteville and it’s likely apparent where I am by default on the stadium business. I’m actually with Rex, more or less -- literally. He said the Razorbacks should play two or more games a year in Little Rock. I say they should play two or less. We have found common ground, and we are both better for it.

That was easy to resolve, especially compared to the knotty issue Rex raised when he said, “Fayetteville is not in the South. Fayetteville is in the Midwest.” Well, yes, no, sort of and not entirely. Fayetteville is in the South, the Midwest and the Southwest all at once, part of each of them and indicative of none of them. There are also small traces of the Northeast and West Coast here too, all welcome parts of the mix even if somewhere under the radar.

(By the way, opinions expressed here are those solely of the author and not necessarily those of Northwest Arkansas, and definitely not intended to be representative of the city of Fayetteville, where consensus is rarely found on anything other than our fierce determination to be Fayetteville, depending our various factions think that is at a given moment.)

Back to the main point, as to Fayetteville’s geographic inclinations. People from the three predominant regions mentioned above have been coming here for decades and settling in with those already here as native born or long-time immigrants. Those from the three regions fall into two categories:

-- The ones who look around and see most of the culture is not exactly like it was back home, wherever that was. They hoped for a carbon copy of life back home and didn’t find it here. They complain a lot and generally flee within a few years or less.

-- The ones who look around and see, in addition to some of their original home’s culture, an intriguing blend of other regional cultures that appears to co-exist and thrive rather well within one municipality. They stay for a long time and become part of a local melting pot that is largely indifferent to where one is from, much less where one’s ancestors lived.

So Rex is right in noting that if you’re in Fayetteville and looking for the real South, you’ll probably have to drive at least as far as Little Rock to find it. For that matter, if you want to find the real Midwest you’ll have to drive about as far the opposite direction and head to Kansas City. If you want to find the real Southwest, start in Tulsa and keep going. It’s all easily accessible to us from Fayetteville and makes us a bit separate from everyone else. Nobody has ever really claimed us. It could be the ultimate identity crisis, but it’s probably more of an issue to people far from Fayetteville than it is to the local citizenry. We’re quite content with what and where we are, whatever and wherever everyone else may think it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Stadiums, football and regional culture, all in one blog post. Rex could have been less controversial if he had merely explained how to handle health care or what should have happened in Cambridge, Mass., a couple of weeks ago.</p>
<p>I live in Fayetteville and it’s likely apparent where I am by default on the stadium business. I’m actually with Rex, more or less &#8212; literally. He said the Razorbacks should play two or more games a year in Little Rock. I say they should play two or less. We have found common ground, and we are both better for it.</p>
<p>That was easy to resolve, especially compared to the knotty issue Rex raised when he said, “Fayetteville is not in the South. Fayetteville is in the Midwest.” Well, yes, no, sort of and not entirely. Fayetteville is in the South, the Midwest and the Southwest all at once, part of each of them and indicative of none of them. There are also small traces of the Northeast and West Coast here too, all welcome parts of the mix even if somewhere under the radar.</p>
<p>(By the way, opinions expressed here are those solely of the author and not necessarily those of Northwest Arkansas, and definitely not intended to be representative of the city of Fayetteville, where consensus is rarely found on anything other than our fierce determination to be Fayetteville, depending our various factions think that is at a given moment.)</p>
<p>Back to the main point, as to Fayetteville’s geographic inclinations. People from the three predominant regions mentioned above have been coming here for decades and settling in with those already here as native born or long-time immigrants. Those from the three regions fall into two categories:</p>
<p>&#8211; The ones who look around and see most of the culture is not exactly like it was back home, wherever that was. They hoped for a carbon copy of life back home and didn’t find it here. They complain a lot and generally flee within a few years or less.</p>
<p>&#8211; The ones who look around and see, in addition to some of their original home’s culture, an intriguing blend of other regional cultures that appears to co-exist and thrive rather well within one municipality. They stay for a long time and become part of a local melting pot that is largely indifferent to where one is from, much less where one’s ancestors lived.</p>
<p>So Rex is right in noting that if you’re in Fayetteville and looking for the real South, you’ll probably have to drive at least as far as Little Rock to find it. For that matter, if you want to find the real Midwest you’ll have to drive about as far the opposite direction and head to Kansas City. If you want to find the real Southwest, start in Tulsa and keep going. It’s all easily accessible to us from Fayetteville and makes us a bit separate from everyone else. Nobody has ever really claimed us. It could be the ultimate identity crisis, but it’s probably more of an issue to people far from Fayetteville than it is to the local citizenry. We’re quite content with what and where we are, whatever and wherever everyone else may think it is.</p>
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		<title>By: CentralArkansan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CentralArkansan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is the proposed WMS expansion the Great Stadium Debate II?  Is Jeff Long or the UofA FORCING state taxpayers to build a new press box and add the luxury suites to continue playing in Little Rock?  Given you had no quotes from any UofA official, it must not make a bit of difference to them.

Did you contact anyone at the WMS Commission to find out what other events will be held at WMS after spending in excess of $100MM to add the press box and ring of luxury suites?  After all, it would be incompetent spending so much of our state&#039;s tax money if they had no new tenants for WMS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the proposed WMS expansion the Great Stadium Debate II?  Is Jeff Long or the UofA FORCING state taxpayers to build a new press box and add the luxury suites to continue playing in Little Rock?  Given you had no quotes from any UofA official, it must not make a bit of difference to them.</p>
<p>Did you contact anyone at the WMS Commission to find out what other events will be held at WMS after spending in excess of $100MM to add the press box and ring of luxury suites?  After all, it would be incompetent spending so much of our state&#8217;s tax money if they had no new tenants for WMS.</p>
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		<title>By: I'm a Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>I'm a Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Arkansas being the Flagship School in the state would act like most of the other Flagship schools in their states and actually play the other Division Football team in this state then I might actually care what happens at the Stadium in Little Rock.  They don&#039;t act like a flagship school because they would rather help out ULM instead of their own instate school.  Kentucky just recently signed a four year contract to play Western Kentucky.  Arkansas and ASU could and should do the same thing and play the game in LR.  Until that happens I don&#039;t care what Arkansas does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Arkansas being the Flagship School in the state would act like most of the other Flagship schools in their states and actually play the other Division Football team in this state then I might actually care what happens at the Stadium in Little Rock.  They don&#8217;t act like a flagship school because they would rather help out ULM instead of their own instate school.  Kentucky just recently signed a four year contract to play Western Kentucky.  Arkansas and ASU could and should do the same thing and play the game in LR.  Until that happens I don&#8217;t care what Arkansas does.</p>
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		<title>By: HIllbilly</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>HIllbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fayetteville isn&#039;t in the South? I&#039;m sure that would surprise all the folks who live in Fayetteville. I lived up there for several years. I found it to be a college town with a nice amount of Southern appeal. 

Because of the University, Fayetteville has a population made up almost entirely of people from other places in Arkansas. I&#039;m from Little Rock but almost everyone I knew up there was from some small town in East or South Arkansas. 

I gotta question if you&#039;ve ever been to the Midwest before, Rex? The Ozarks are nothing like Kansas, Oklahoma or anywhere else that is actually in the Midwest. Are the Ozarks just like the Delta, no; but then again, most parts of the South aren&#039;t like the Delta either. 

You can&#039;t exclude Fayetteville from the Greater South</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fayetteville isn&#8217;t in the South? I&#8217;m sure that would surprise all the folks who live in Fayetteville. I lived up there for several years. I found it to be a college town with a nice amount of Southern appeal. </p>
<p>Because of the University, Fayetteville has a population made up almost entirely of people from other places in Arkansas. I&#8217;m from Little Rock but almost everyone I knew up there was from some small town in East or South Arkansas. </p>
<p>I gotta question if you&#8217;ve ever been to the Midwest before, Rex? The Ozarks are nothing like Kansas, Oklahoma or anywhere else that is actually in the Midwest. Are the Ozarks just like the Delta, no; but then again, most parts of the South aren&#8217;t like the Delta either. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t exclude Fayetteville from the Greater South</p>
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		<title>By: rexnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.rexnelsonsouthernfried.com/?p=149&#038;cpage=1#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>rexnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much, Ted. Hey, I love the idea of having an all-GSC day at War Memorial Stadium. That would be fun -- Rex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much, Ted. Hey, I love the idea of having an all-GSC day at War Memorial Stadium. That would be fun &#8212; Rex</p>
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